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Psychoanalysis & You APsA Podcast | Ep 11| Trauma, Performance Anxiety, and Music | Julie Nagel

"Psychoanalysis & You" Official Podcast of the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) Listen to more at https://apsa.org/podcast Episode 11: Trauma, Performance Anxiety, and The Healing Power of Music Guest: Julie Nagel In this episode of 'Psychoanalysis and You,' Dr. Gale Saltz interviews Dr. Julie Nagel, who uniquely blends psychoanalysis with her career as a musician. Dr. Nagel's background includes a notable education in both music and psychology, culminating in her expertise in psychoanalytic concepts applied to music. The discussion delves into Dr. Nagel's life story, her early experiences with music, her shift to psychoanalysis, and how she integrates both fields in her current work. The conversation also explores the emotional impact of music, performance anxiety, and the various therapeutic applications of combining psychoanalysis with musical understanding. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:25 Meet Dr. Julie Nagle: From Pianist to Psychoanalyst 01:26 The Journey from Music to Psychoanalysis 02:22 Childhood Memories and Early Influences 07:00 Understanding Performance Anxiety 08:04 The Emotional Meaning of Music and Psychoanalysis 12:19 The Therapeutic Power of Music 18:12 Music's Deep Connection to Memory and Emotion 23:47 Analyzing Music and Psychoanalysis 34:57 Public Speaking and Performance Anxiety 41:12 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 41:40 Freudian Quickies: Listener Questions Official APsA Podcast APsA's Official Podcast Welcome to " Psychoanalysis & You,” the official podcast of the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA). We explore the intricacies of psychoanalysis under the guidance of our host, Gail Saltz. Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people. Each episode features engaging discussions on key psychoanalytic concepts, such as transference, defense mechanisms, and the role of the unconscious in everyday life. Our Guest Julie Jaffee Nagel, Ph.D. is a clinical psychoanalyst who integrates her education in music and psychoanalysis. Curious about her stage fright as a performer, she pursued her education beyond 2 degrees from Juilliard. After earning her MSW, MA (psychology) and Ph.D. in both psychology and social work from the University of Michigan she graduated from the Michigan Psychoanalytic Institute. She treats numerous musicians (and others) for performance anxiety and career choice. Her 3 books integrate music’s value in mental life (Melodies of the MInd, Rougledge), Managing Stage Fright (Oxford University Press), and Career Choices in Music Beyond the Pandemic (Rowman and LIttlefield) which she presented at Juilliard. Dr. Nagel promotes creative outreach beyond the consulting room and concert hall and gives presentations at psychoanalytic institutes, music organizations, and the general public. Our Host Gail Saltz, MD is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books. She serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry. #APsApodcast can be found on your favorite podcast platform Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter / X at @psychoanalysis_ apsa.org/podcast