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Notorious POD: Ryan Tomasello

Fact is, the real estate industry does not exist in a vacuum. Wall Street is extremely interested in what is going on with us, because housing is such a major sector of the economy and there are several publicly traded companies in our space that investors care about deeply. I have always thought that getting a peek into how investors view our industry is useful for us. So, in this episode, I sit down with one of the top analysts of the industry, Ryan Tomasello, managing director and equity research analyst at KBW, to dive into how Wall Street views the current state of the real estate industry. We explore macro trends, the impact of changes in organized real estate, and take a close look at companies like Zillow, CoStar, and Rocket/Redfin. Our conversation digs into the challenges and opportunities shaping the sector, shedding light on the evolving landscape and what it means from an investor’s perspective. Ryan and I also discuss the shifting dynamics of the real estate market, including Redfin’s partnership with Rocket, the trend of brokerage consolidation, CoStar’s international strategies, and how AI might transform the industry. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Real Estate Landscape 01:52 Macro Trends and the Organized Real Estate Renaissance 05:31 Zillow: The 800-Pound Gorilla 10:16 CoStar vs. Zillow: Market Dynamics 15:20 CoStar's Controversies and Growth Strategy 21:29 Rocket and Redfin: A New Era in Real Estate 24:16 Redfin and Rocket's Unique Positioning 34:13 Brokerage Dynamics and Market Consolidation 41:51 CoStar's International Strategy and Market Impact 46:01 AI's Role in Real Estate