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To celebrate turning 60, Melinda French Gates sat down with iconic changemakers of all ages to talk about their biggest life transitions for a special series, “Moments That Make Us.” In this episode, she chats with award-winning filmmaker Ava DuVernay about her journey from being a publicist to making films, her society-shifting vision for the industry, the habit she wished she’d started earlier in life, and why it’s important not to have a fixed idea about yourself—no matter your age. Check out all of the conversations in this series: Megan Rapinoe: • Moments That Make Us: The Radical Emp... Reese Witherspoon: • Moments That Make Us: Reese Witherspo... Ava DuVernay: • Moments That Make Us: Ava DuVernay’s ... Michelle Obama: • Moments That Make Us: Michelle Obama ... Oprah Winfrey & Gayle King: • Moments That Make Us: How Friendship ... Billie Jean King: • Moments That Make Us: Billie Jean Kin... & don’t miss the Trailer! : • Introducing "Moments That Make Us" wi... In this episode: • 0:45 – How turning 50 felt and thoughts on “growing older” • 3:39 – Advice for the transition from 30s to 40s • 4:45 – Ava’s career transition from movie publicist to movie director and how she found the courage to make it • 8:10 – Why Ava decided to make A Wrinkle in Time o See more: • A Wrinkle in Time Official US Trailer • 9:20 – Creating her own “liberated territory” and how it helps her as a filmmaker • 11:25 – Why Ava is attracted to making social justice films • 12:27 – Adapting the book Caste into the film (Origin) o See more: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo... o See more: • Origin Trailer #1 (2024) • 13:42 – Advice for handling self-doubt and the importance of “god winks” moments • 17:30 – How Ava learned about strong female leadership through her family • 18:25 – The importance of owning the end-to-end experience of film • 20:16 – How “being bored means being boring” and the joy of lifelong learning • 21:40 – Advice for younger women • 26:06 – The importance of small moments of joy throughout each day Produced by Feee Films Directed by Felicia Manning Photography c/o Pivotal Ventures Follow Melinda French Gates on: Twitter/X: @melindagates Facebook: @melindagates LinkedIn: @melindagates Instagram: @melindafrenchgates YouTube: @melindafrenchgates Follow Ava DuVernay on: Instagram: @Ava